Open Data = Open Government?

My attempt to track the ongoing debate...contributions, rants, and insight warmly welcomed.

Open Government is an essential part of Open Policymaking.

Hmm…is that the right order of things? (From the UK government’s consultations with civil society on the Open Government Partnership.)

HT Andrew E.

(Source: opengovernment.org.uk)

Amazingly brutal honesty here: “[In Russia] Open Government is not meant to aid dialogue between the authorities and the people. It provides for dialogue of a limited number of experts with the government.

Nice debate at the International Open Government Data Conference (Washington, DC)

HT Andrew

David Sasaki (@oso)

12/07/12 1:51 AM

I still find @dgrobinson’s framing of “political accountability” vs. “public service delivery” problematic. #IOGDC Needs clearer vocab.

Daniel Schuman (@danielschuman)

12/07/12 1:52 AM

@oso @dgrobinson as do I. It’s a bad/fuzzy/overbuild distinction #iogdc

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

12/07/12 1:54 AM

@danielschuman @oso part of a reaction in #opengov movement to def including broader range of areas than transparency/accountability. #iogdc

Harlan Yu (@harlanyu)

12/07/12 2:02 AM

@oso @digiphile @danielschuman It’s a simplification; all sorts of motivations for#opendata. But those are most common & are perceived diff

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

12/07/12 2:06 AM

@harlanyu @oso @danielschuman Seeing #opendata this morning as a group of blind men might regard an elephant? bit.ly/4Edh4 #IOGDC

Useful Twitter conversation debating what #opengov is

Thanks for the heads up Andrew…

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

27/06/12 1:42 AM

@cheeky_geeky @Publicyte Spin much? @GovTech article has 0 reference to what@Microsoft buying Yammer means for #opengov; title is just #gov

Dr. Mark Drapeau (@cheeky_geeky)

27/06/12 1:51 AM

@digiphile You don’t think that a more agile, collaborative social enterprise falls under the category of “open government”? I do. #opengov

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

27/06/12 1:55 AM

@cheeky_geeky As for what I think? Easy. Your tweets suggest @Microsoft would like to position its products under the category of #opengov.

Andrea DiMaio (@AndreaDiMaio)

27/06/12 1:59 AM

@digiphile @cheeky_geeky @Microsoft bit.ly/MWVbx0 agreed, I read the article because of its references to #opengov and there was none

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

27/06/12 2:03 AM

@AndreaDiMaio Yup. And it’s not at all unfair to point that out, despite the spin that followed.#opengov

gbyehuda (@gbyehuda)

27/06/12 2:13 AM

Intra-governmental collaboration is #gov20#opengov is a different Gov20 project.@cheeky_geeky @digiphile @AndreaDiMaio @D_Chehab

Andrea DiMaio (@AndreaDiMaio)

27/06/12 2:29 AM

@gbyehuda @cheeky_geeky @digiphile @D_Chehab Not according to the Open Government Directive

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

27/06/12 2:31 AM

@AndreaDiMaio Yup. Although perhaps we could agree that there’s more to #opengov than@OpenGov?

Andrea DiMaio (@AndreaDiMaio)

27/06/12 2:33 AM

@digiphile Absolutely. I’ve always said that #opengov is a powerful internal tool, so maybe I’m in sync with @cheeky_geeky

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

27/06/12 2:38 AM

@AndreaDiMaio Do your clients in govt report that Sharepoint helps them be more agile or collaborative? Or makes data searchable? #opengov

Andrea DiMaio (@AndreaDiMaio)

27/06/12 2:47 AM

@digiphile Internal use of #opengov goes far beyond collab platforms. Sharepoint, Connections, Jive etc are not the crux of the matter here

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

27/06/12 2:49 AM

@AndreaDiMaio No doubt. But my question stands.

Andrea DiMaio (@AndreaDiMaio)

27/06/12 2:50 AM

@digiphile Er, which one - I have three in the last three tweets :)

Kevin Curry (@kmcurry)

27/06/12 3:04 AM

@AndreaDiMaio The one where @digiphile asked if your gov clients report improvements in the areas he cited due their choice of a collab CMS.

Alex Howard (@digiphile)

27/06/12 3:06 AM

@kmcurry that’s kind of a key question, for sure. hope @AndreaDiMaio circles back & blogs about that results of collab CMS choices.

Kevin Curry (@kmcurry)

27/06/12 3:09 AM

@digiphile @AndreaDiMaio can we link to published results of gov customer surveys about their use of collaborative CMS, i.e., know of any?

Andrea DiMaio (@AndreaDiMaio)

27/06/12 3:34 AM

@kmcurry @digiphile We have data in our Magic Quadrants about which tools are best. But the main challenge for #opengov is not technical

Kevin Curry (@kmcurry)

27/06/12 6:42 AM

@AndreaDiMaio @digiphile Good reason to understand which tech makes cultural change EZ, which are painful. Can U help me nav 2 magic quads?